“The Real Truth About The Middle East” – Ken O’Keefe

The Real Truth About The Middle East

by Zen Gardner

Ken O’Keefe telling it like it is. Research this information for yourself and see if it isn’t true if you have any doubts. We’re dealing with parasitic psychopaths here.

Source: The Real Truth About The Middle East – Ken O’Keefe – Zen Gardner

P.S.

If you took the time to watch this video, then take a few more minutes of your time and check out the following article. It shouldn’t be too much of a stretch for you to see the connection:

US Senate to Declare “International Martial Law” — Give President “Unlimited” Military Powers

P.S.

Since I know most folks don’t read comments, here is an informative, excellent comment that puts what is happening in the middle east into what I consider to be the proper perspective.

Many thanks to Norman Pilon at Taking Sides:

Before I make my comment, please know that I’m very tired and my typing and editing is shit, today. Hopefuly, I won’t make too much of a mess:

My take: Zionism is the ideology in Israel that keeps the Israelis in thrall to the capitalist elite of Israel. In other words, it’s a tool to manage and control the population, to get it to do what the big capitalists want it to do. (Analogously, all ‘nationalist’ ideologies are similarly used to manage and control the populations under their spell. In this respect, no one is different from anyone else, and this makes ‘us’ all vulnerable to being manipulated into conflicts of mutual annihilation, precisely as we are witnessing in the Middle East and as Ken O’Keefe brilliantly illustrates. Tribal ideologies — which include national identities — are being fostered so as to make tools of peoples who are used in a contest between rival gangs of political, economic masters. )

The capitalists of Israel are at one with a ‘transnational’ network of capitalists, the most organized and powerful of which happen to be headquartered in the USA, but that also includes as part of the primary fold the ruling capitalist elites of Europe and Japan. All other members of this network are subaltern capitalist elites in places like Russia and, yes, Turkey, and everywhere else that you can find classes of compradores, that is, gangs of national elites willing to sacrifice the interests of their nation for favor conferred upon them by the ascendant transnational masters. As it happens, not all power elites are members of the club or even want to be members of it, as some either have plans of their own or actually bear an outlook genuinely attuned to the welfare of their peoples. It appears as though Russia and China and Iran, together with the rest of the countries that comprise the BRICS, can be characterized as being to a high degree under the control of the latter sort of rulers, people, like Assad, who don’t want to play the role of minions to the Empire. As Assad puts it in the video, refusing to submit to the Masters of the Universe makes you and your country a target of destabilization, and the way the destabilization is brought about is by either a) fomenting endogenous divisions among ‘groups’ (be they consolidated on a basis of ethnicity, nationality, religion, race, political orientation, or whatever) already resident of the territory you control or b) infiltrating ‘mercenaries’ or ‘terrorists’ into your territory. Either tactic means the training, supplying, and arming of the ‘dissidents’ or contending foes.

Consequently, however the map of the Middle East ends up being redrawn, if it is redrawn, will depend on whether the Empire, such as it is, prevails, or whether the emerging power nexus of Russia and China and Iran manages to hold its own.

None of this is about the aspirations of ordinary people to the degree that their hopes and dreams are not the inculcated tribal delusions resulting from the machinations of the capitalist power mongers.

Everything else, in my opinion, is diversionary, a distraction from what is really happening. To remain at a level of analysis preoccupied with what the ‘Kurds’ or the ‘Israelis’ or the ‘Iranians’ or the ‘Islamists’ both want and are up to, is to remain at a level that conceals more than it reveals, in fact, it keeps you preoccupied with, and entangled in, the illusions that the power elite, especially those of the Empire, want you to remain preoccupied with, and entangled in. For if a war is believed to be only or largely about tribal or nationalistic aspirations, the question of political and economic control, whether what is being fought for will be in anyway of benefit to ordinary people, is submerged beneath awareness and consideration.

The West (the Empire) wants more of the Middle East, come hell or high water, and doesn’t give a fuck about how many people it has to kill to get it. People have to recognize this and begin to withhold their cooperation, to see these wars for the realpolitik that they are, although for some it is too late, since they already find themselves in a situation where they have to fight or be murdered.

But it’s not about ‘Israel’ or ‘Saudi Arabia’ or ‘Iran’ or ‘Turkey,’ at least not in the sense of what the popular masses might want; it’s capitalism — it’s about a highly organized power elite subduing people while expropriating them, even if it means killing them by the millions by confounding them into murdering one another through the madness of ‘tribal allegiances.’

Did I help to clarify anything? Probably not. I do apologize. All this shit really does exercise me. And I’m tired.

Best,

–N

26 thoughts on ““The Real Truth About The Middle East” – Ken O’Keefe

  1. This is good video, thank you for sharing my Earthling friend. And starting from here, I want to say somethings, because I want to really understand. Maybe you and the others can help me for understanding.

    Maybe remember I mentioned before in a comment that I made in here, under another your post, my Earthling freind. After Su-24 fallen down by Turkish Airforce, Putin clearly expressed they support the PYD(Kurdish Democratic Union Party), which is popular as freedom fighters by the western world. And already USA government always support to PYD, and USA government never hide their support . But this grup is consider as terrorist organization by Turkey. Why? Because PKK is a terrorist organization and PYD is a arm of it, like PJAK which is making it’s mission in Iran, so PJAK is PKK’s Iran arm. All them is Kurdish groups.

    If we look totaly at the region, if PJAK would be succesful in Iran, if PKK would be succesful in Turkey, if PYD would be succesful in Syria, the biggest part of Kurdistan will be established. And this is what Israel wants. The map which is shown at 1.00 minutes this video, greater Israel map cannot come true right now. But they do have the Kurdish card. They want to do at first, establishing big Kurdish state, and they want to use it for their benefit. Because noone cares the Kurdish people in real, and this puppet Kurdish government will give services to the zionists. Right now, at Iraq, at Iraq Kurdistan, so many Kurdish people are poor, so-called oil wealth should have been useful for Kurdish people, but it hasn’t been like that.

    And I am confused because how Putin government cannot see, and obviously inside a decade when Syria divide from the north and this part join the Kurdistan which wanted to establish by wishes of zionists and western imperialism, what will they say by looking at past. Such a explanation like this, it could be? : “Yes, we supported the PYD with USA government, and we didn’t know what will come?” Really!

    And here is my question what I cannot solve. Who will gain real benefit? Could be any secret agreement between USA elites and Russia oligarcy about Syria’s divide and after then? Israel benefits has never been the parallel with Russia. Because Iran is Russia’ first ally in the region. And Russia never wants to be contrary with Iran. But right now, the governmnets of Russia, USA and Israel seem to be ally with each other.

    But if there is any secret agrement which is maybe we will never know, between Russia and USA, what will come after? How much worse days will come!

    And I have to say, they only put Turkey on the video while showing to be Saudi Arabia alliance, is dissapointed me:) You know I never support to the government but it is wierd and funny, everyone knows that biggest ally of Saudi Arabia always has been British imperialism and still it is. I’d want to see the queen’s picture in here too:)

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  2. I made a mistake, it would have been YPG, not PYD. Sorry, but there are a lot groups in the regions, I don’t know how many:) And tonight, Syria peace conferance will make at Geneva. Even now, there are many disagreements among the countries about the groups which should be join.

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  3. What I got from the video had not much to do with Turkey, beyond oil.

    I posted this because I see Saudi Arabia being an ally of US first, and then the other NATO nations. The Bush family and the Saudis have been tight for years.

    And Israel is, as it has been since 1947, the cause of most turmoil in the middle east. And Zionists are in charge of the US government.

    I have no idea of what is going on with Turkey, Iran, Syria, the Kurds and all these acronym groups: ISIS/ISIL, and the ones you have mentioned here.

    It is my opinion, uniformed as it may be, that if Israel did not exist, then most of this would not be taking place.

    And this is why I posted the video.

    I’m sorry, my friend, I doubt that I even came close to answering your question.

    I try to stay away from articles dealing with Turkey, because I am ignorant of what is happening. And when I try to read about it, I end up being even more confused.

    Maybe I’m just too old and senile? 😉

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  4. Please look at the chart at this link my Earthling friend, do you see how many group or country is involved this chaos?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

    Syria has become black hole of this planet, and no one knows really what is happening in here.

    And I am the one of them, of course I am closer than you to the region and we take more news, but all is confusing. And I have no idea what will come after this, I can only ask questions and trying to get the answers to these questions. Maybe in this way, I can understand. And of course the western media doesn’t show the news from the eyes of the people at the region, they give the news for their propaganda, you know.

    And you are doing good thing, when you share the post about the region, including Turkey. We can catch a chance to talk and discuss for illumination of ours, when you do this. This is a good opportunity, thank you:)

    And you’re a young spirit Earthling:)

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  5. Before I make my comment, please know that I’m very tired and my typing and editing is shit, today. Hopefuly, I won’t make too much of a mess:

    My take: Zionism is the ideology in Israel that keeps the Israelis in thrall to the capitalist elite of Israel. In other words, it’s a tool to manage and control the population, to get it to do what the big capitalists want it to do. (Analogously, all ‘nationalist’ ideologies are similarly used to manage and control the populations under their spell. In this respect, no one is different from anyone else, and this makes ‘us’ all vulnerable to being manipulated into conflicts of mutual annihilation, precisely as we are witnessing in the Middle East and as Ken O’Keefe brilliantly illustrates. Tribal ideologies — which include national identities — are being fostered so as to make tools of peoples who are used in a contest between rival gangs of political, economic masters. )

    The capitalists of Israel are at one with a ‘transnational’ network of capitalists, the most organized and powerful of which happen to be headquartered in the USA, but that also includes as part of the primary fold the ruling capitalist elites of Europe and Japan. All other members of this network are subaltern capitalist elites in places like Russia and, yes, Turkey, and everywhere else that you can find classes of compradores, that is, gangs of national elites willing to sacrifice the interests of their nation for favor conferred upon them by the ascendant transnational masters. As it happens, not all power elites are members of the club or even want to be members of it, as some either have plans of their own or actually bear an outlook genuinely attuned to the welfare of their peoples. It appears as though Russia and China and Iran, together with the rest of the countries that comprise the BRICS, can be characterized as being to a high degree under the control of the latter sort of rulers, people, like Assad, who don’t want to play the role of minions to the Empire. As Assad puts it in the video, refusing to submit to the Masters of the Universe makes you and your country a target of destabilization, and the way the destabilization is brought about is by either a) fomenting endogenous divisions among ‘groups’ (be they consolidated on a basis of ethnicity, nationality, religion, race, political orientation, or whatever) already resident of the territory you control or b) infiltrating ‘mercenaries’ or ‘terrorists’ into your territory. Either tactic means the training, supplying, and arming of the ‘dissidents’ or contending foes.

    Consequently, however the map of the Middle East ends up being redrawn, if it is redrawn, will depend on whether the Empire, such as it is, prevails, or whether the emerging power nexus of Russia and China and Iran manages to hold its own.

    None of this is about the aspirations of ordinary people to the degree that their hopes and dreams are not the inculcated tribal delusions resulting from the machinations of the capitalist power mongers.

    Everything else, in my opinion, is diversionary, a distraction from what is really happening. To remain at a level of analysis preoccupied with what the ‘Kurds’ or the ‘Israelis’ or the ‘Iranians’ or the ‘Islamists’ both want and are up to, is to remain at a level that conceals more than it reveals, in fact, it keeps you preoccupied with, and entangled in, the illusions that the power elite, especially those of the Empire, want you to remain preoccupied with, and entangled in. For if a war is believed to be only or largely about tribal or nationalistic aspirations, the question of political and economic control, whether what is being fought for will be in anyway of benefit to ordinary people, is submerged beneath awareness and consideration.

    The West (the Empire) wants more of the Middle East, come hell or high water, and doesn’t give a fuck about how many people it has to kill to get it. People have to recognize this and begin to withhold their cooperation, to see these wars for the realpolitik that they are, although for some it is too late, since they already find themselves in a situation where they have to fight or be murdered.

    But it’s not about ‘Israel’ or ‘Saudi Arabia’ or ‘Iran’ or ‘Turkey,’ at least not in the sense of what the popular masses might want; it’s capitalism — it’s about a highly organized power elite subduing people while expropriating them, even if it means killing them by the millions by confounding them into murdering one another through the madness of ‘tribal allegiances.’

    Did I help to clarify anything? Probably not. I do apologize. All this shit really does exercise me. And I’m tired.

    Best,

    –N

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  6. You wrote,

    “But it’s not about ‘Israel’ or ‘Saudi Arabia’ or ‘Iran’ or ‘Turkey,’ at least not in the sense of what the popular masses might want; it’s capitalism — it’s about a highly organized power elite subduing people while expropriating them, even if it means killing them by the millions by confounding them into murdering one another through the madness of ‘tribal allegiances.’”

    Yes, you made yourself very clear! But even more so, you, in your exhausted state, put into words what I sense about this entire mess in the middle east. To be honest, I don’t have the energy nor the inclination to investigate every aspect of what is happening all over this area of the planet. And it has done me little good to try, since there is a plethora of articles written on all of this from all different points of view. And hell, I don’t know who is right and who is wrong.

    But I do know that, just like the media promoted happenings in this country, what is happening in Turkey, Syria, Palestine, Yemen, etc, etc, is designed to keep we the individuals from recognizing what is really happening.

    And your entire message here, spells that out in such a clear way that I am going to add your comment to the post.

    You make more sense and write better when you’re exhausted than most of us do when we’re refreshed and awake.

    By the way, I am way behind in everything. I try to read the articles and watch the videos you and a few others post, but my health issues will not allow me to sit at the computer for great lengths of time. So sometimes, I click the like button before I have read the entirety of your posts and others. I just wanted you to know I am not blowing off what you post.

    A tech-wise friend is going to help me find a tablet in the next months or so, so I can either sit in a better chair or even lie down and read and watch. And I will get caught up then. To be honest, I have felt burned out over the last few days, and mainly due to to not feeling up to par.

    Thanks for taking the time to respond this way!

    DB

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  7. Hi Migo,

    I left a reply which was intended for you, but that I posted as a comment to the post as such. Sojourner claims that there is some sense in it. It’s my take on the clusterfuck that the Middle East and, by extension, that the entire world has become . . . You can read it below.

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  8. Sojourner,

    No one is under any obligation to keep up. Don’t feel that you have to read everyone and everything. I certainly don’t. Read what you can when you can and most importantly, when you are up to it and feel inclined to do so.

    As for being “way behind in everything,” I beg to differ. You are very much abreast of the way things are, not any less or more burdened by mystifications than myself or anyone I know, and probably a lot less.

    Take care of yourself, DB. Treat yourself kindly. Rest when you have to and don’t worry about whether or not you are keeping up.

    And should you fail to reply to any of my comments, I’ll know why it was: no ill feeling but an aging body creaking. Never an apology will there be needed, then.

    Best regards,

    –N

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  9. Hi, my Earthling friend NP. Thank you so much for your reply. I will answer tonight or tomorrow according to my time zone to your comment, because I think that I have to read again and I should give a reply in properly. Your comment is quite an excellent answer, and I should give a reply by thinking over my question.

    Why I don’t do this right now? Because yesterday unusual way it was snow at the city Izmir where I reside now in west Anatolia. And I and WD walked too much under the snows. We seemed like innocent and happy Earthlings who saw UFO:)) I had missed so much snow! Snow can be one of my big happeniess on this planet! And I helped one of my friends to move his house in my free time yesterday. I guess, both them effected me and I feel little bit tired and I have the snuffles little bit.

    I don’t want to wrong reply without thinking over it right now in my these conditions. I hope I could tell what I mean. And thank you so much again!

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  10. Sojourner, you’re a valuable human being on this planet. I’ve always proud and happy with your friendship, and still it is. And so many times I thanked to your existence on this planet! And like NP said, “Never an apology will there be needed, then.” We need you in your healthy way, don’t force too much your self. You can take a time for yourself, and rest little bit. Already the winter is allowing the conditions of resting:) Thank you again to your existence on the planet!

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  11. Thank you for this! And know the same is true for you as well.

    I think I am going to take the weekend off, and maybe even a little longer. At least until I get the energy level back up.

    Thank you, again!

    DB

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  12. Migo, my friend, like NP’s, your words are a blessing!

    I am so glad to have friends like the both of you. And just let me say, Migo, you are valuable to all of us as well. In fact, you are the most valuable extraterrestrial I know!;-)

    I am going to take your advice and NP’s and rest up for the rest of the month. I have a few things already to post. So I will slow down and take some time off for the next several days

    My thanks to both of you!

    And both of you take care as well!

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  13. Hi again my Earthling friend NP! I’ve read again your comment and I thought over my question. Your explanations about capitalism and publics’ conflicts are quite excellent which I can also put my signature under them.

    The thing that I want to solve “who gains profit in here in real, and what will come after these events.”

    And I am seeing again and again zionists of Israel. Maybe you can think right now: “come on Migo, I made a lot of explanation but you still insist to not understand, you should be real big-headed alien” :)) Let me explain why is that, my friend.

    Firstly I have to say that I am thinking always scientefic and liking to objectivise. Already if I coldn’t objectivise I cannot support to what or which reasons to my sub-questions. And you see my real question in here was asked objectively in simple size.

    I can explain secondary part in this context. You know the Sykes-Picot agreement which was made in May, 1916 between the France and England. Actually Russian Empire has involved into this, but after the revolution Lenin gave up this agreement and he announced this agreement to world public in 1917. This agreement was about the sharing of Middle East. But revolution of Russia and Turkish Independence War and the effects of these could prevent to come true of it in big shape. Also, a few people know that Lenin and communists helped to Ataturk and Turkish Independence War. They made military support to Turks against the western imperialism. And I believe that this agreement was about the first testing of Israel state. Especially last three years it has been a lot of talks about Sykes-Picot agreement and its benefit. Even I had seen a kind of news and articles like “Sykes-Picot was good agreement, I wished that it came true, and if it has been came true, Middle East would have been peaceful region right now.” Maybe you saw them too.

    And interestingly(!) that this June 2016 they will try to redraw new map at Princeton University. You can see in here the news about this:
    http://whattheysayaboutusa.com/politics/20160112/119242/mideast-israel-syria.html

    That’s exactly 100 years later same attempt. The conditions evolve over their requests what they desired.

    And again in last three years there were news about Kurdish and Jewish relationship. Even some Israel’s researchers made a research about “Kurds and Israel’s jewish can be same race.” So they made propaganda kind of “we can be same race” to be ingratiated themselves into Kurdish people’s favor.

    It seems right now about the solving problem into Syria, but I am seeing it is about solving of Israel’s water ways and it’s hegomany in the region.

    You also know that Arab-Israel six days war in 1967. Before this war, earlier,
    “In 1964, Israel began to take water from the River Jordan for the national waterway project. The following year the Arab states, activated their plans that would lead not to flow of water from the Jordan River to Israel. This plan would be reduced 35% of Israel’s national water way resources, and would be reduced water resources of the other countries in 11%. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) attacked to the facility at the dam under construction in Syria between March and August 1965. These attacks have led to long border conflict that lasted until the war in Syria-Israel.” (these quotes from Turkish wiki)

    And in here I made a post about this subject for a while ago. (At this juncture, it wouldn’t be if I don’t make an advertisement of my post :))
    You can see at this link:
    https://unnecessarynewsfromearth.wordpress.com/2015/05/13/water-wars-in-middle-east/

    And that’s why I am seeing all behind of the events, zionists’ plan of Israel. Yes it is connecting in full part with capitalism and new shape imperialism.

    And in this context, I think the big surprises will be on Iran especially. Right now most country is trying to catch making business agreements with Iran. And I think Iran feels relief and cannot see what will come. Because one important Kurdish leader said four years before,

    “An autonomous Kurdistan in Northern Iraq was established. It’s capital is Arbil.
    An autonomous Kurdistan in northern Syria is being established. It’s capital is Qamishli.
    An autonomous Kurdistan will be established in Iran. Capital will be Mahabad.
    An autonomous Kurdistan will also established in Turkey. Diyarbakir’s name will be changed as “Amed”. Amed will be the capital city.
    This 4 capital city as well as in the European Union, they will take near them Armenia and Jordan, also by removing the boundaries they will use “common currency”; and “Greater Kurdistan Union” to become real.”

    And we all know what has been happening in the region into last four years according to this plan. Firstly they will think “we establish the Kurdish State” but after then maybe these events will be again, and the imperialists will realize they cannot take under control the region even if the puppet Kurdish state is in the here, and imperialism will establish greater Israel state in that time.

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  14. Thank you for your kind words my Earthling friend! I have to tell your words to my extraterrestrail friends too! I am sure they will be happy they will learn that they’re welcome on this planet by yours! :))

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  15. Hi again my Earthling friend NP! I’ve read again your comment and I thought over my question. Your explanations about capitalism and publics’ conflicts are quite excellent which I can also put my signature under them.

    The thing that I want to solve “who gains profit in here in real, and what will come after these events.”

    And I am seeing again and again zionists of Israel. Maybe you can think right now: “come on Migo, I made a lot of explanation but you still insist to not understand, you should be real big-headed alien” :)) Let me explain why is that, my friend.

    Firstly I have to say that I am thinking always scientefic and liking to objectivise. Already if I coldn’t objectivise I cannot support to what or which reasons to my sub-questions. And you see my real question in here was asked objectively in simple size.

    I can explain secondary part in this context. You know the Sykes-Picot agreement which was made in May, 1916 between the France and England. Actually Russian Empire has involved into this, but after the revolution Lenin gave up this agreement and he announced this agreement to world public in 1917. This agreement was about the sharing of Middle East. But revolution of Russia and Turkish Independence War and the effects of these could prevent to come true of it in big shape. Also, a few people know that Lenin and communists helped to Ataturk and Turkish Independence War. They made military support to Turks against the western imperialism. And I believe that this agreement was about the first testing of Israel state. Especially last three years it has been a lot of talks about Sykes-Picot agreement and its benefit. Even I had seen a kind of news and articles like “Sykes-Picot was good agreement, I wished that it came true, and if it has been came true, Middle East would have been peaceful region right now.” Maybe you saw them too.

    And interestingly(!) that this June 2016 they will try to redraw new map at Princeton University. You can see in here the news about this:(in here when I add the link comment wasn’t approve, the news in “whattheysataboutusa”com and title is “New Map of Fragmented Middle East”
    That’s exactly 100 years later same attempt. The conditions evolve over their requests what they desired.

    And again in last three years there were news about Kurdish and Jewish relationship. Even some Israel’s researchers made a research about “Kurds and Israel’s jewish can be same race.” So they made propaganda kind of “we can be same race” to be ingratiated themselves into Kurdish people’s favor.

    It seems right now about the solving problem into Syria, but I am seeing it is about solving of Israel’s water ways and it’s hegomany in the region.

    You also know that Arab-Israel six days war in 1967. Before this war, earlier,
    “In 1964, Israel began to take water from the River Jordan for the national waterway project. The following year the Arab states, activated their plans that would lead not to flow of water from the Jordan River to Israel. This plan would be reduced 35% of Israel’s national water way resources, and would be reduced water resources of the other countries in 11%. Israel Defense Forces (IDF) attacked to the facility at the dam under construction in Syria between March and August 1965. These attacks have led to long border conflict that lasted until the war in Syria-Israel.” (these quotes from Turkish wiki)

    And in here I made a post about this subject for a while ago. (At this juncture, it wouldn’t be if I don’t make an advertisement of my post :))
    You can see at this link:
    https://unnecessarynewsfromearth.wordpress.com/2015/05/13/water-wars-in-middle-east/

    And that’s why I am seeing all behind of the events, zionists’ plan of Israel. Yes it is connecting in full part with capitalism and new shape imperialism.

    And in this context, I think the big surprises will be on Iran especially. Right now most country is trying to catch making business agreements with Iran. And I think Iran feels relief and cannot see what will come. Because one important Kurdish leader said four years before,

    “An autonomous Kurdistan in Northern Iraq was established. It’s capital is Arbil.
    An autonomous Kurdistan in northern Syria is being established. It’s capital is Qamishli.
    An autonomous Kurdistan will be established in Iran. Capital will be Mahabad.
    An autonomous Kurdistan will also established in Turkey. Diyarbakir’s name will be changed as “Amed”. Amed will be the capital city.
    This 4 capital city as well as in the European Union, they will take near side Armenia and Jordan, also by removing the boundaries they will pass “common currency”; and “Greater Kurdistan Union” to become real.”

    And we all know what has been happening in the region into last four years according to this plan. Firstly they think “we establish the Kurdish State” but after then maybe these events will be again, and the imperialists will realize they cannot take under control the region even if the puppet Kurdish state is in the here, and imperialism will establish greater Israel state in that time.

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  16. Hi Migo,

    Just read your reply, and I don’t seem to have much to disagree with in its substance, at leas not at first glance. The ‘redrawing of the Middle East’ may happen precisely as you anticipate, and the public pronouncement made to justify it are very much as you say they are since you do quote them.

    In substance, we are not that far apart. We both see and understand that there are the rationales concocted for public consumption (the right to national self-determination, oppressed nationalities making a bid for freedom, the right to self-defense, and so on ad infinitum) and then the real motives of the political elites, be they the lapdogs of Empire or the kingpins themselves.

    There is no question that ideologies serve political agendas that they espouse because that’s what they are designed to do, and you point to a rather flagrant example of it: “Even some Israel’s researchers made a research about “Kurds and Israel’s jewish can be same race.” So they made propaganda kind of “we can be same race” to be ingratiated themselves into Kurdish people’s favor.” So when the Zionist elites need their fascist population to regard certain people as being their own ‘blood’ because they are looking for a military alliance, suddenly “researches,” who are really ideologues, “discover” a history validating the belief that those people are as authentically Israeli as the Israelis themselves. How convenient. The timing of the discovery could not be better.

    But you’ll have to give a couple of days before I return to this and to also follow up your links. I’m trying to get some things done by way of both reading and writing, and once that’s out of the way, I’ll be able to give this the attention it deserves.

    Regards,

    –N

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  17. I just watched this. And it does clarify to a point.

    But for me, and maybe I’m just slow, but I still have little idea of what is really happening, overall, in this area of the world, beyond, of course, the war-mongering, greed/power-driven elite doing what they always do: cause conflict, war/mayhem and devastation to those most incapable of defending/protecting themselves.

    This is a west-created, convoluted nightmare!

    Thanks again, Norm!

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  18. Hi Sojourner,

    I hope all is well with you, with your health.

    Maybe you are just slow?

    Is there anything more to understand “beyond . . . the war-mongering, greed/power-driven elite doing what they always do: cause conflict, war/mayhem and devastation to those most incapable of defending/protecting themselves. This is a west-created, convoluted nightmare[?]”

    I don’t think so. That, to mind, sums it up very exactly and succinctly. It would appear that we are both ‘slow’ in precisely the same manner. ; -)

    Best,

    –N

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  19. Thank you, Norman, and welcome aboard;-) As with Migo, Carol Hand, Dr. Bramhall, Robyn, and a few others, I am more than glad that we ran into each other at this late date.

    I am doing better, thank you. Took the last two days off, and will take the rest of the weekend off as well. Getting old sucks!

    Thanks to your excellent work, I feel no need to post anything else until after the first of the month.

    And I do mean excellent! Your article was one of the rare kind that actually brings me great relief, because you put into words what burns in my heart and mind, day and night!

    So I thank you!

    Dave

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